Comments on: SEM Job Criteria of the Not So Distant Future https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/ Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:25:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Patricia Skinner https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2320 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:25:30 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2320 Todd, I’m with you on this one. Twitter is a fabulous medium for communicating thought, and learning. I’ve made some solid friends through twitter–it’s not fake at all.

Social media is most certainly not SEO, but there’s no harm in SEOs being on social media. I just can’t see the reasoning to be honest.

]]> By: Todd H https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2319 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:10:13 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2319 @Todd M: I completely agree….funny you should mention “ninja” 😉

]]> By: Scott Salwolke https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2312 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:01:12 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2312 This last paragraph Todd is great. Your article and follow-up discussion had already convinced me I need to spend more effort on social web sites, especially Facebook. This last paragraph reinforced this. It will take time, but I’ll work to develop my profile.

]]> By: Todd Mintz https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2309 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:10:05 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2309 Todd H…glad you got some good advice from my article…it isn’t that I wouldn’t hire someone who was rather unknown…rather that I would start that person with a “Strike 1” that would have to be overcome through other means.

The thrust of my article was to encourage the mass of very talented folks who aren’t known by many in the community to lose their anonymity as a way of enhancing their future prospects. It isn’t that you even have to be a social media ninja…just that you play the game well enough to get a solid profile that you can show off to others.

]]> By: Todd H https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2306 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:08:35 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2306 At first, I thought this was an extremely pretentious post. To admit that you wouldn’t hire anyone you hadn’t heard of is a bit self indulgent, wouldn’t you agree? Reading through the comments, I tended to agree with most opposing viewpoints that a good SEO doesn’t necessarily have to be active in the social media game. (In fact, I’d argue that often they are mutually exclusive)

Then I read your last comment:
‘Very talented folks are doing themselves a tremendous disservice by not bringing their aptitude into public display.’

That’s VERY good advice. In fact, I work for a well known SEO company and feel that I fall into that category. I’m underpaid and under appreciated. In order to change that, I need to spend some of my own time getting my name out there as an SEO of REAL value. In the process, I hope to increase the reputation and value of the company I work for. Expect to hear more from me in the next few months!!!

]]> By: Todd Mintz https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2287 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:26:05 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2287 There’s a saying from pop psychology that “You are your own best advocate”. You might have the best talent, aptitude & results but if that isn’t known by the community at large, you will be fighting an uphill battle to land the jobs / gigs against better known folks who might well be less talented than you.

Good personal / professional marketing places a perception in the marketplace that you excel at your chosen craft (whether it be true or not). These are the folks that get contacted first when talent is needed and these are the folks that can command the highest fees for their time.

Very talented folks are doing themselves a tremendous disservice by not bringing their aptitude into public display.

]]> By: Matt McGee https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2286 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:58:42 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2286 We recently hired a new SEO manager, and going into the process I was dead-set on many of the requirements listed in this article. We were going to hire someone who was at least semi-visible in the community, we were going to hire someone who uses social media, someone with a presence, etc., etc., etc.

We ended up hiring someone whose name I didn’t know until I interviewed him, who isn’t a big Sphinn user, isn’t Joe Social Media User, doesn’t have a blog, etc. …. and we got ourselves a real winner. Our SEO dept. is already much better for his presence and I now see my previous wishes/requirements as naive.

]]> By: john andrews https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2285 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:12:15 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2285 Todd, to add a bit of clarity, I used to watch SEO want ads for an unstated reason, and I saw well-known “SEO people” hiring “SEOs” at $7/hour to start. That’s an in-house job, on-site, full time as far as I could tell. And training was provided.

Imagine a room full of mimimum wage workers with the job title “SEO” and you might be able to understand some of the disagreements. No matter how forcefully someone may want to define SEO for all of us, it clearly has different meanings in different environments.

]]> By: Scott Salwolke https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2281 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:17:43 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2281 Good point. And social media could be a place where dissatisfied clients relate their experience. So I could see strong activity in the social mediums could help offset this.

]]> By: Todd Mintz https://www.sempdx.org/blog/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2280 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:20:17 +0000 http://sempdx-v2.local/announcements/job-criteria-of-the-not-so-distant-future/#comment-2280 Scott, I do think if you’re sloppy with facets of your online reputation management that it is quite likely that such sloppiness could extent to your work product…not necessarily in your knowledge of SEM but in the execution of it.

And, while it isn’t a total sin to neglect your professional network when your busy with work, wise folks know not to neglect it for too long because ultimately, it would hurt them in the long run.

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